Al-Albani : the hadith says if the Muslims had no one leader then leave all the groups. And we already said before that the jihad for fard al-3ayn has to be done the jama3a led by a leader to all the Muslims, an Amir. If the Muslims had no leader they stay away from ALL groups. How can they do group jihad if they should at the same time stay away from all groups??? you are contradicting what you already agreed on. islamically we have only one banner, one group and one leader. We do need this one group to start the fard al-3ayn jihad.
Al-jihad supporter : ...
Al-Albani : now what I want to do is prove to you that this Amir of the fard 3ayn jihad must be a khalifa, not just an Amir. The dallel is the hadith of Huthayfah again. Sometimes as you know the evidence is clear and sometimes not very, (qat3i al-dilalah, or thahiri al-dilalah). Let us consider an example of a Shaikh advising his student on the guidelines of this hadith. The student asks his Shaikh what to do to to avoid the evil, the Shaikh says stick with the imam of the Muslims. The student answers that the Muslims have no khalifa, so the Shaikh advises him to stay away from all the groups. This student is obedient to his Shaikh and this Shaikh that is following his prophet. what would this student do? he would go ahead living his life in a valley looking after his sheep or whatever, worshiping Allah. Where is jihad? if it was a wajib on this muslim to fight then the Shaikh would tell him to fight, and not to stay away from every group. is there a jihad here? as long as there is no imam then there is no jihad. This evidence is Qat3i al-Dilalah. Jihaad must be in the supervision of an Imam, or khalifa. But let me tell you about some thing that troubles many of the students of knowledge, that there are many groups that fight like the afghan or those in Syria a decade or more ago. Those people, if they want to fight they must be under the leadership of one Amir, that doesn't mean that Syrians fight in Afghanistan and afghanis in Syria, no. It means that both fighting groups must be under the supervision on one Imam and one khalifa. If there was no one imam and no one jama3a (not in the meaning of two fighting groups, but in the meaning of one group in their unity of leadership, but could be more than one group of fighters each fighting in a part of the Islamic world), both groups would be operating on their own.
To do this fard 3ayn jihad, the wajib of the Muslims is unity, the unity needs a khalifa. To establish this thing we must start with education and purification (Tasfiyah wa Tarbiyah). We can not start with jihad right now.
You say that there are many groups for jihad, yet all these groups are in disagreement and as Allah said in Quran "wa la tanaza3o fa tafshalu wa thahaba ree7okum". We are today many like the flowing of the river, what you want to do is give legitimacy to these ghutha' groups.
Al-jihad supporter : okay then how does this education and purification (Tasfiyah wa Tarbiyah) lead to khilafa?
Al-Albani : History repeats itself. everybody claims that the prophet is their role model. Our prophet SAW spent the first half of his message in making da3wa, and he started with it not with jihad. The prophet first raised his companions Islamic education like he educated them to say the word of truth and not be afraid of it, he also taught them the Islamic teachings. We know that our Islam today is not like it was when Allah revealed "today I have completed your religion", many things have indeed been added to Islam, do you not agree?
Al-jihad supporter : Yes I fully agree. but there are many Quranic proofs that jihad is an important obligation!
Al-Albani : I do not deny that, but ya akhi the question is "where do we start from?" My da3wa is : to do this jihad we need an Amir, to get this Amir we must work on the Tasfiyah and Tarbiyah. think about this on your own, by considering the hadith of Huthayfah which do we need first jihad or the Amir ?
Al-jihad supporter : has anyone before called for Tasfiyah and Tarbiyah before jihad ?
Al-Albani : May Allah be merciful with you. Tell me when did the Muslims not have a unified khalifa?
Al-jihad supporter : What about the time of Ali and Mu3awiyah?
Al-Albani : You mean you have a doubt that Ali was right, and that Mu3awiyah was wrong?
Al-jihad supporter : No ... but
Al-Albani : no "but"s. How many khulafa' were there?
[after a while of discussion]
Al-jihad supporter : OK, OK, one.
A listener : To be frank my Shaikh, this discussion is going nowhere : if one does not make his intention and mind pure he will never understand.
Al-Albani : This is indeed a good advice. We live in an age where one of the fatal characters is spread, which is everyone liking his own opinion. Today everybody who reads a bit of Quran or learns a bit of A7kam and Hadeeths, he thinks he is something in 3ilm although he can not read the hadiths without errors, and then he wants to argue everything he sees ...
Al-jihad supporter .. trying to interrupt ...